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Freenet Discussion

Hello All!

Just got a very interesting comment on The Freenet Philosophy from SuperForester Chucka Stone Designs:

Chucka Stone Designs said…

“I am an artist. I fiercely protect the work I do as my own because it is how I make my living. Without that “stamp” how would anyone know that I am an artist? Furthermore, without that “stamp” how would anyone know I am the artist who created the “work they enjoy”? I, as a person am not for sale even though my work is.”

I totally agree. Here is my response:

Jackson said…

A very good point.

As technology progresses, we will be constantly re-evaluating older ways of doing things. The internet has for the first time in history provided us with a means for the transmission of ideas/media from person to person, with little or no accountability to the original creators of the ideas/media.
So in this brave new world, how can we ensure that our artists are compensated for their creations?
As the internet has shown, there simply is no way to ensure this…

This is why we at SuperForest try to approach the idea of “environmentalism” from a moral stance, i.e. is is impolite to use/copy an artists work without offering some form of recompense.

If I may ask, what is your art form? How are you compensated for it now? What would you do if you found out that someone was copying your work and selling it?
Would your response be different if the pirateer were another individual artist, or a large company?

This is a fascinating discussion and I would love to know more.

Thank you for taking the time to comment!

-Jackson”

This is a very sticky area. On one hand, we as informed citizens must be able to express our viewpoints and exercise our right to copy/parody existing works, but we must also be able to personally reward those artists whose work we see as valuable.

In other words, we need total anonymity mixed with personal accountability. Not easy bedfellows.

For instance, what if I decided to draw a comic book that featured Mickey Mouse as the main character? According to the Bill of Rights, I should be allowed to do this.
So, I draw my comic, and have Mickey saying and doing things that perhaps are distasteful to Mickey’s parent company. Should I be allowed to sell this work?

I think I should be.

Should Disney be compensated by my use of their mouse?
I think they should be. I don’t think they have to be, but I think it would be morally correct to offer them a slice of my “Renegade Mickey” comic book pie.

Okay, so I’ve made a work of art based on another work of art and am now in the process of offering a piece of the profits to the original owner.
Some vengeful soul decides that the piece I’m offering is not enough!

They hack my account, and change the percentage I was offering to Disney from, say, ten percent, to one hundred percent.

Now ALL profits from “Renegade Mickey” are going directly to Disney, and I, the artist of the property am seeing none of it.

Is this right?

Some would say: “Absolutely, you stole from them and are simply getting what you deserve.”
Others would say: “No way, no ideas form in a vacuum, and everything is based on an earlier, less-refined incarnation. You should be allowed to profit from your work.”

Sticky, sticky, sticky.

What, morally, is the difference between putting Michelangelo’s Pieta on a t-shirt and putting Renegade Mickey on a t-shirt? Both original artists are long dead.
And what morally is the difference between just making one shirt and wearing it around town, and making 100,000 shirts and selling them online?

Is there a difference?

And what if I personally did not make any money from the sale of the Renegade Mickey t-shirts? Perhaps I simply routed all proceeds to a woman’s shelter, or homeless youth outreach, or Club Penguin (which is owned by Disney.)

Where exactly is the line here?

Either ideas/media is free to use once exposed to the zeitgeist, or it isn’t.
Either one is legally obliged to compensate an artist whose work you are copying, or one isn’t.

Should we be legally required to compensate for the use of ideas/media? If so, who should be doing the overseeing? And how does the overseeing take place? Who has the right to oversee everything you or I create?

Remember: You cannot copyright an idea. You can only copyright the form that that idea takes.

So Disney can copyright Mickey Mouse, but if I draw Mickey Mouse, then that Mickey is mine.
And If I draw Mickey doing things that Disney feels is unsavory, then tough, it is my First Amendment right to do so.

Here’s a copy of the 1st Amendment: (which I copied from usconstitution.net)

“Amendment 1
– Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791.
Note

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

There you have it.

If I want to draw Mickey Mouse getting drunk and swearing, I can do it. If I want to sell copies of that image, I can do it. If Disney has a problem with it, it’s well within their rights to express dismay, or outrage, but they cannot legally stop me from expressing myself, or from profiting from that expression.

So, to Chucka Stone Designs, if someone wants to copy your art and profit from that, they are expressly allowed to by our beloved constitution. They might be jerks for doing it, but you are then within your right to point out to the entire world (via the internet) what jerks they are, how your original art is superior to their knock-offs, and to use the friction of experience to create further media.

Democracy demands that we are able to freely parody and criticize. And since the line between parody and complete copying is such a grey one, we must allow that all copying is a form of parody.

This is the difference between the movie Tron, and the sweded version of the movie Tron.

Here’s the original lightcycle scene:

And the sweded version:

Interesting, no? One is a shot for shot copy of the other, and yet their difference is unmistakable and undeniable.

I must be able to draw Renegade Mickey without fear of reprisal from Disney or fear of someone assuming my identity and using it to wreak havok.

We as citizen caretakers of Democracy must be able to express ourselves without fear of reprisal, whatever form that expression takes.

That is the very essence of Democracy. To decry it is to object to all that makes America the incredible place it is.

What are your thoughts on this?

Love to all,

Team SuperForest

Special thanks to Chucka Stone Designs for prompting this discussion, to Walt Disney and his collaborators for creating such compelling and timeless works of art, and to the creators of the U.S. Constitution, which is a masterpiece.

This discussion was prompted by the release of Freenet 0.7, an application that allows the user total web anonymity, and by Air Pirate Funnies, a 1971 comic book that featured among other things, Mickey and Minnie Mouse consummating their relationship while in prison and dabbling in illegal drug use.

The Freenet Philosophy

Here is a very interesting document from freenetproject.org:

The Philosophy behind Freenet

By Ian Clarke

1. A Disclaimer

There are many reasons why people get involved in the Freenet Project. Some share the views outlined in this document; some share variations of these views, which are also served by what we are trying to achieve; and some just enjoy the technical challenge. These are the ideas which motivated me to architect the system in the first place, but not necessarily the views that everyone involved in the Freenet project holds.

2. Suggested prior reading

For this document to make sense, you should probably know what Freenet is. You can get a good overview on the What is Freenet? page.

3. The importance of the Free flow of information

Freedom of speech, in most western cultures, is generally considered to be one of the most important rights any individual might have. Why is the freedom to share ideas and opinions so important? There are several ways to answer this question.

3.1 Communication is what makes us human

One of the most obvious differences between mankind and the rest of the animal kingdom is our ability to communicate sophisticated and abstract concepts. While we constantly discover that animal’s communication ability is more sophisticated than previously assumed, it is unlikely that any other animal approaches our own level of ability in this area.

3.2 Knowledge is good

Most people, given the option of knowing something and not knowing something, will choose to have more information rather than less. Wars have been won and lost over who was better-informed. This is because being better-informed allows us to make better decisions, and generally improve our ability to survive and be successful.

3.3 Democracy assumes a well informed population

Many people today live under democratic governments, and those who don’t, probably want to. Democracy is an answer to the question of how to create leaders, while preventing them from abusing that power. It achieves this by giving the population the power to regulate their government through voting, yet the ability to vote does not necessarily mean that you live in a democratic country. For a population to regulate their government effectively it must know what their government is doing, they must be well informed. It is a feedback loop, but this loop can be broken if the government has the power to control the information the population has access to.

4. Censorship and freedom

Everyone values their freedom, in fact, many consider it so important that they will die for it. People like to think that they are free to form and hold whatever opinions they like, particularly in western countries. Consider now that someone had the ability to control the information you have access to. This would give them the ability to manipulate your opinions by hiding some facts from you, by presenting you with lies and censoring anything that contradicted those lies. This is not some Orwellian fiction, it is standard practice for most western governments to lie to their populations, so much so, that people now take it for granted, despite the fact that this undermines the very democratic principles which justify the government’s existence in the first place.

5. The solution

The only way to ensure that a democracy will remain effective is to ensure that the government cannot control its population’s ability to share information, to communicate. So long as everything we see and hear is filtered, we are not truly free. Freenet’s aim is to allow two or more people who wish to share information, to do so.

6. Isn’t censorship sometimes necessary?

Of course no issue is black and white, and there are many who feel that censorship is a good thing in some circumstances. For example, in some European countries propagating information deemed to be racist is illegal. Governments seek to prevent people from advocating ideas which are deemed damaging to society. There are two answers to this however. The first is that you can’t allow those in power to impose “good” censorship, without also enabling them to impose “bad” censorship. To impose any form of censorship a government must have the ability to monitor and thus restrict communication. There are already criticisms that the anti-racism censorship in many European countries is hampering legitimate historical analysis of events such as the second world war.

The second argument is that this “good” censorship is counter-productive even when it does not leak into other areas. For example, it is generally more effective when trying to persuade someone of something to present them with the arguments against it, and then answer those arguments. Unfortunately, preventing people from being aware of the often sophisticated arguments used by racists, makes them vulnerable to those arguments when they do eventually encounter them.

Of course the first argument is the stronger one, and would still hold-true even if you didn’t accept the second. Basically, you either have censorship, or you don’t. There is no middle-ground.

7. But why is anonymity necessary?

You cannot have freedom of speech without the option to remain anonymous. Most censorship is retrospective, it is generally much easier to curtail free speech by punishing those who exercise it afterward, rather than preventing them from doing it in the first place. The only way to prevent this is to remain anonymous. It is a common misconception that you cannot trust anonymous information. This is not necessarily true, using digital signatures people can create a secure anonymous pseudonym which, in time, people can learn to trust. Freenet incorporates a mechanism called “subspaces” to facilitate this.

8. And what of copyright?

Of course much of Freenet’s publicity has centered around the issue of copyright, and thus I will speak to it briefly. The core problem with copyright is that enforcement of it requires monitoring of communications, and you cannot be guaranteed free speech if someone is monitoring everything you say. This is important, most people fail to see or address this point when debating the issue of copyright, so let me make it clear:

You cannot guarantee freedom of speech and enforce copyright law

It is for this reason that Freenet, a system designed to protect Freedom of Speech, must prevent enforcement of copyright.

9. But how will artists be rewarded for their work without copyright?

Firstly, even if copyright were the only way that artists could be rewarded for their work, then I would contend that freedom is more important than having professional artists (those who claim that we would have no art do not understand creativity: people will always create, it is a compulsion, the only question is whether they can do it for a living).

Secondly, it could be questioned whether copyright is effective even now. The music industry is one of the most vocally opposed to enhancements in communication technology, yet according to many of the artists who should be rewarded by copyright, it is failing to do so. Rather it has allowed middle-men to gain control over the mechanisms of distribution, to the detriment of both artists and the public.

10. Alternatives to Copyright

Fortunately it won’t come to this. There are many alternative ways to reward artists. The simplest is voluntary payment. This is an extension of the patronage system which was frequently used to reward artists prior to copyright, where a wealthy person would fund an artist to allow them to create full-time. The Internet permits an interesting extension of this idea, where rather than having just one wealthy patron, you could have hundreds of thousands, contributing small amounts of money over the Internet.

We actually practice what we preach in this regard too, on the 15th of March 2001 the Freenet Project started taking donations, and within a week we had collected over $1000.

11. More sophisticated approaches: Fairshare

Of course some people ridicule this idea on the basis (I assume) that nobody would ever pay for something unless forced to do so (despite significant evidence to the contrary). While I disagree with their rather depressing outlook on humanity, there are more sophisticated mechanisms which do appeal to people’s self-interest, such as “Fairshare”, where people can buy in to artists much as a venture capitalist will buy into an idea they like, and if that artist is successful they will be rewarded in proportion to their original contribution. This has the nice effect of encouraging people to give more money to obscure artists who they believe have potential. If their investment doesn’t pay-off, then they still have the satisfaction that they contributed to an artist whose work they enjoy.”

What do you think?